SV reX said:I haven’t missed a day of work in the last 15 years.
Don’t take this as an attack. Please.
this is a lot of what is wrong with the job market and America right now. If you’re sick. Stay home. If you get injured stay home. If you use less than your given vacation, it is not a flex.
we all need to change this thinking in America.
In reply to SV reX :
Nearly every business in my town is hiring.
My shop is busy.
The local plumber is booking two weeks out.
The local electrician is a month out.
Job qualifications here are "show up".
But yes, there's no jobs, nobody is hiring and everything is awful.
Farmers were looking for guys to drive combines this summer. You -literally- get paid to stare out a window.
In reply to ShawnG :
Things aren't the same everywhere. By me we have medical researchers and engineers working cash registers because that's the work they can get, and they're the lucky ones who aren't stuck with gig work. I've applied for work at a junkyard, a hardware store, car parts shops, tire shops, a bike repair shop, a go-kart track, a car rental place, mechanic shops, dealerships, factories, doctor's offices...I'm not just applying for IT jobs and crying while rolling around in the ashes of the industry.
In reply to GameboyRMH :
You're too comfortable in your rut.
Look at Newfies. Those guys are Canada's Mexicans.
Go to any job site in Canada and you'll find at least one Newfie. They travel all across the country for jobs because buddy told them there's work somewhere. This country wouldn't function without Newfies.
Channel your inner Newfoundlander.
In reply to ShawnG :
Don’t get sucked in. He’s got more reasons then you have time.
In reply to Steve_Jones :
Yup. I didn't shut the door until 9pm last night.
Hustling at a trade show 10am - 9pm Saturday and 10am to 4pm Sunday, handing out business cards and shaking hands.
You have to actually want it.
In reply to ShawnG :
He's not wrong.
It really is ugly here in Ontario right now. I know people that have been looking for months, and they don't even get a call back.
I've worked with a fair number of Newfies, and gotten to know a few of them really well. Listening to their stories of growing up in Newfoundland, it's no wonder they're the hardest working people in the country. Just living there was hard work. It's all they know.
I think certain injuries happen in professions due to ergonomics or repeated use. I joke that having back/neck surgery is the dentist merit badge, and yes, I've already gotten it and am rocking towards my second one. Same thing with carpal tunnel. There's a reason you don't see too many clinical practicing dentists that are over 65 years old, and it's not because we're all filthy rich. I've taken over two practices, both were sold because they were medically retiring. I suspect the same thing will happen to me.
I've said it before, some of the wealthiest people I've met are tradesmen who own their own businesses. When I look back at my choices, I think becoming an electrician or a finish carpenter, or another tradesman would've been an excellent choice. Same thing with an airline pilot, that's an industry that has (and in the near future) will have a lot of opportunities. I talk to my son about that one all the time.
SV reX said:Ok, but 18.7% of people in the country are on disability. Almost 40% of post 911 military vets are on service related disability.
If you are right and the trades have 3-5% on disability, that sounds like they are doing pretty darned good.
That was such an interesting thing that I had to look it up. The 18.7 number came from self-reporting in the 2010 census. It reflects people who have a disability not that they are on disability (receiving direct payments). The CDC currently estimates 28.7%! This is how the CDC comes up with the 28.7%:
More than 1 in 4 adults (28.7 percent) in the United States have some type of disability.
The 18.7% number broke down like this:
he Bureau reports that 56.7 million Americans (18.7% of the population) have some type of disability.
The Bureau reports that among people age 15 and older:
8 million have a vision impairment
8 million have a hearing impairment
31 million have difficulty walking or climbing stairs, including 4 million people who use wheelchairs and 12 million people who use canes, crutches, or walkers
20 million have difficulty lifting or grasping.
When I read the numbers my first thought was that its possible that the type of people attracted to the trades may also be the type of people who may be more prone to injury.
According to the government I am permanently disabled. I am also a tradesman, but it happened long before I was
Fueled by Caffeine said:SV reX said:I haven’t missed a day of work in the last 15 years.
Don’t take this as an attack. Please.
this is a lot of what is wrong with the job market and America right now. If you’re sick. Stay home. If you get injured stay home. If you use less than your given vacation, it is not a flex.
we all need to change this thinking in America.
I’m not taking it as an attack, and I’m not being defensive. But you grossly misinterpreted my comment.
I don’t go to work sick, and I’ve never been injured beyond basic first aid. My comment was a comment on how healthy I am (and others in my field), not how hard headed I am.
I take my vacation days. My company strongly encourages it.
I don’t get sick, so I haven’t had a need to stay home. I hope others can enjoy the same.
mfennell said:SV reX said:Ok, but 18.7% of people in the country are on disability. Almost 40% of post 911 military vets are on service related disability.
If you are right and the trades have 3-5% on disability, that sounds like they are doing pretty darned good.
That was such an interesting thing that I had to look it up. The 18.7 number came from self-reporting in the 2010 census. It reflects people who have a disability not that they are on disability (receiving direct payments). The CDC currently estimates 28.7%! This is how the CDC comes up with the 28.7%:
More than 1 in 4 adults (28.7 percent) in the United States have some type of disability.
- 13.9 percent of U.S. adults have a cognition disability with serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions.
- 12.2 percent of U.S. adults have a mobility disability with serious difficulty walking or climbing stairs.
- 7.7 percent of U.S. adults have an independent living disability with difficulty doing errands alone.
- 6.2 percent of U.S. adults are deaf or have serious difficulty hearing
- 5.5 percent of U.S. adults have a vision disability with blindness or serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses.
- 3.6 percent of U.S. adults have a self-care disability with difficulty dressing or bathing.
The 18.7% number broke down like this:
he Bureau reports that 56.7 million Americans (18.7% of the population) have some type of disability.
The Bureau reports that among people age 15 and older:
8 million have a vision impairment
8 million have a hearing impairment
31 million have difficulty walking or climbing stairs, including 4 million people who use wheelchairs and 12 million people who use canes, crutches, or walkers
20 million have difficulty lifting or grasping.
Adults. I would like to see that broken down by a tighter age range. I should imagine 90% of the 70 and older population fits those criteria, and consider themselves normal for their age.
In reply to SV reX :
Stop man. I’m not saying any of that. I’m making a comment about how American work culture is toxic and bad for people.
In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :
You used me as an example to try to make your “point”. Please don’t.
In reply to SV reX :
I apologize for hurting your feelings. Now let’s all agree that us work culture is bullE36 M3 and move on. My meetings started at 6am and went straight through with no lunch.
In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :
No hurt feelings here. Couldn’t care less.
If your point was to make a generic comment about the entire American workforce, it probably could have been communicated better generically without quoting anyone.
It's killing me. I know I shouldn't get sucked in. Don't do it...
A hundred and fifty years ago, you would have been staring at the ass end of a mule 12 hours a day to scratch enough food out of the ground to not starve over the winter. Or, you would have been grateful for that mining job that would kill you, but allowed you to feed and clothe your children.
I'm done now.
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